﻿1
00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:02,720
Welcome to Lunch Bites 

2
00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:04,120
this is our second session, 

3
00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,080
so just to explain lunch bites 

4
00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,040
to anyone who's not been been 

5
00:00:08,040 --> 00:00:10,320
to one before, it's a social debate.

6
00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,920
We're not here to tell you the rules

7
00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,200
or or a particular opinion on something.

8
00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:16,840
We're here to open up a conversation 

9
00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:18,040
and start thinking about things. 

10
00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,280
So it's very, very much a debate. 

11
00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:21,680
We may start, but we would hope 

12
00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:22,440
that you interact 

13
00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:23,480
and possibly finish for us 

14
00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:24,880
if anyone wants to join us on the stage. 

15
00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:26,760
We've got a spare seat. 

16
00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,120
Today, we're exploring 

17
00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,120
what it is to be British. 

18
00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:32,760
So as part of the framework 

19
00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,720
that our government and our education 

20
00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,440
policies tell us to explore. 

21
00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,240
We're looking at British values, 

22
00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:39,560
so you may have already been spoken 

23
00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,760
to about British values by your tutor, 

24
00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:42,480
and it's something that 

25
00:00:42,480 --> 00:00:44,520
we are asked to explore with you. 

26
00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:45,360
But in this debate 

27
00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,360
today, we're exploring. 

28
00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:48,320
Do we need to do that? 

29
00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:49,320
Should we do that? 

30
00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:50,720
Are British values 

31
00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,960
different to European values, 

32
00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,600
different to international values? 

33
00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:55,480
And that's where we would 

34
00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,520
welcome some discourse 

35
00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:58,560
on that particular topic. 

36
00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,600
So I'll start by talking about

37
00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,440
my investment in the topic.

38
00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:04,640
I was the kid that 

39
00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:05,800
never went home and said, 

40
00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,560
Can I go on a trip? 

41
00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,360
Because my parents, 

42
00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:10,480
when they were starting out, 

43
00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,280
they used to save their money in a pot 

44
00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:13,200
that looked like an onion 

45
00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:13,960
on the windowsill. 

46
00:01:13,960 --> 00:01:15,320
And when we run out of money 

47
00:01:15,320 --> 00:01:17,240
each week, we'd run out of money. 

48
00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,360
Now, over time, my dad was a mechanic

49
00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,320
and he set up his business 

50
00:01:21,320 --> 00:01:22,400
and he did well. 

51
00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,160
But when I was a young kid, 

52
00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,360
I was really, really conscious 

53
00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,400
of going home and saying, Can I have? 

54
00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,640
So not once did I ever say, 

55
00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:30,280
we've got a trip. 

56
00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:30,840
Can I go? 

57
00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,040
Because I knew the situation 

58
00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,080
it would put my parents in 

59
00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,560
so I had not traveled overseas 

60
00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:37,720
and I didn't really understand 

61
00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,080
anything about cultural difference 

62
00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:40,560
or anything else. 

63
00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,360
And I went all the way through school,

64
00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:45,120
went to college, 

65
00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,440
went to university, did an M.A..

66
00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,120
So I was 23 before I travelled

67
00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:52,680
and the first time I traveled 

68
00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,080
was in my first job. 

69
00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,040
I signed up as a tutor and I was running

70
00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:58,520
a degree program in Wales 

71
00:01:58,520 --> 00:01:59,320
and they said, Oh, 

72
00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:00,520
can you go and teach in Finland? 

73
00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:01,240
Someone's noticed 

74
00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:02,000
your work and your degree 

75
00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,920
so they'd like to teach in Finland? 

76
00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:04,840
And that was the British 

77
00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:06,400
consulate at the time. 

78
00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:07,640
So they paid for me 

79
00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:08,760
to go over there and teach

80
00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:10,960
so me not knowing anything, 

81
00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:11,920
particularly about travel. 

82
00:02:11,920 --> 00:02:13,120
I've got no fears about travel 

83
00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:14,480
because there were no nerves. 

84
00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,720
I didn't have any context, so 

85
00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:17,920
I thought, Okay, 

86
00:02:17,920 --> 00:02:20,400
I've got to get to the airport.

87
00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:21,400
So I remember distinctly, 

88
00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,440
I hitched a lift to the airport,

89
00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:25,600
which was fine. 

90
00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,480
Now I would never do that. 

91
00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:28,720
I got to the airport, 

92
00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,040
didn't know anything about flying, 

93
00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,320
worked it all out for myself. 

94
00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:32,920
I'd got this ticket, 

95
00:02:32,920 --> 00:02:34,360
obviously trying to get through security 

96
00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:35,800
and kind of figuring out what you do. 

97
00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,120
And all the different 

98
00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:37,840
things was new to me, 

99
00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:38,800
and I went through that on my own 

100
00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,360
for the first time, which was fine. 

101
00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,920
I was a grown up and I could handle it. 

102
00:02:42,920 --> 00:02:45,400
But when I got over to Finland,

103
00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:47,680
I was absolutely blown away 

104
00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,120
at the difference 

105
00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,240
in the expectations 

106
00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,120
of a teacher over there 

107
00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:53,160
to the expectations 

108
00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,800
that were on me as a teacher in the UK. 

109
00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,880
So I've not been teaching very long. 

110
00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,160
But when I came to a session, 

111
00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,280
the students kind of arrived 

112
00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:02,280
as I was arriving. 

113
00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,000
When we broke for lunch, we kind of said 

114
00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:04,800
It's about lunchtime. 

115
00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,960
Let's break, absolutely not in Finland.

116
00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,440
So when I went to a session, 

117
00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:11,600
the students were there ready 

118
00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,280
and then the half an hour 

119
00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:14,640
before 50 minutes 

120
00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:16,040
before whatever making notes 

121
00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,640
and everything set out. 

122
00:03:17,640 --> 00:03:18,440
When I even arrived 

123
00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,760
at the college they had got 

124
00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,000
hand-made flowers, 

125
00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,920
all on the entrance as you come in 

126
00:03:23,920 --> 00:03:24,520
because they knew that 

127
00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,000
there was a craftsperson coming to visit. 

128
00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,160
When I was giving lectures, 

129
00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:28,520
they said to me, 

130
00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:29,200
Can you do a lecture 

131
00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:30,320
about some of your professional work? 

132
00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:31,200
Because I did some work with 

133
00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,000
Hello magazine and 

134
00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,600
cosmopolitan and so on. 

135
00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,000
So I went into the lecture theater. 

136
00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,000
It was nothing like this. 

137
00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,120
It was 1000 seats 

138
00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,400
and it was absolutely packed 

139
00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:41,600
and this was in the olden days. 

140
00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:42,640
So I'd got little slides 

141
00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,360
that you probably haven't even seen. 

142
00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:45,320
And I was right at the back 

143
00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:46,240
and I've got these slides 

144
00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:47,720
and I thought, Oh my goodness. 

145
00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,720
And the cultural difference was

146
00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,520
was just massive. 

147
00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,240
So the respect for the tutor 

148
00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:54,000
and the respect for a 

149
00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,440
practitioner was immense 

150
00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,360
and I was not prepared for it 

151
00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:58,240
may be a good thing. 

152
00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,600
Maybe not, I don't know, 

153
00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:00,640
but some simple things. 

154
00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,880
So I would say, Oh, it's about lunchtime.

155
00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:03,360
But you know what? 

156
00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:04,800
Let's work over a bit 

157
00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,240
because we're casting this resin 

158
00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:07,000
and it needs to set. 

159
00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:07,600
We need to kind of 

160
00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:08,800
watch it and monitor it. 

161
00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,360
And it was, you know, 

162
00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:11,320
I was put to one side, 

163
00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:12,640
but that's not what we do. 

164
00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:13,640
We stop for an hour. 

165
00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,160
We have a three course meal. 

166
00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,480
The principal joins us. 

167
00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,000
This is what we do. 

168
00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,520
And it was completely different for me.

169
00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,000
I had no comprehension 

170
00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:22,880
of that way of working, 

171
00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,080
so I had to really quickly 

172
00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,560
learn on my feet. 

173
00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:26,520
And it struck me that 

174
00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,720
if I'd had that experience 

175
00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,680
or even been spoken to about it 

176
00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,080
when I was training, 

177
00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,200
I'd been in much better place 

178
00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,000
because for most of us, 

179
00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,520
we're going to have 

180
00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,640
between six and eight different careers.

181
00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:41,840
It's very unlikely 

182
00:04:41,840 --> 00:04:44,200
that we're only going to work in the UK,

183
00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,240
very unlikely. Even within the UK.

184
00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:47,320
It can be different working here 

185
00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:48,160
and working in London. 

186
00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:49,600
But for lots of us in 

187
00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:50,440
this room, we'll be working 

188
00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:51,160
in different countries. 

189
00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:52,240
So I've worked in 13 

190
00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:53,760
different countries now 

191
00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,160
and it's really important for me 

192
00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,600
to recognize the cultural difference 

193
00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,080
and the similarities. 

194
00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,440
So that was my. first introduction. 

195
00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:02,720
And at that point, I thought, 

196
00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,760
OK, I'm going to dedicate my work 100%

197
00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,040
to enabling the people 

198
00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:08,800
to have the experience, 

199
00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,880
I didn't have to prepare them,

200
00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,520
so they're not in the position I'm in. 

201
00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:13,720
And also to value 

202
00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:14,880
the idea of travel because,

203
00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:16,720
you know, for as much money 

204
00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,040
as I earn in that job, 

205
00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,560
that experience repaid me 

206
00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,800
so much more in terms of value. 

207
00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:22,720
So from there, 

208
00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,520
that was a long, long time ago. 

209
00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,760
I've worked for 21 years now 

210
00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,600
looking at European travel. 

211
00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,040
I work as part of the British 

212
00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,320
Council on their panel. 

213
00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,480
I work as part of the Association

214
00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:35,920
of Colleges Roundtable 

215
00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,560
and I also work on the policy group. 

216
00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,040
So there's a pot of funding 

217
00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:39,640
that we've been working 

218
00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:40,360
with for a long time 

219
00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:41,080
that's been called 

220
00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,440
lots of things like Leonardo 

221
00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,200
was called camellias for a while. 

222
00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:45,160
It was called Erasmus 

223
00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:46,520
and now it's called Turin. 

224
00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,040
So I've been involved in writing 

225
00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,200
around that, and Darren's 

226
00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:50,920
joined me on some of 

227
00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:51,680
the meetings as well. 

228
00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,520
Now, so we've got a good.

229
00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,560
We're authentic here at the 

230
00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:57,480
institute in terms 

231
00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,320
of accessing that money. 

232
00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,680
And in fact, for the past four years,

233
00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:02,440
we've been award winners, 

234
00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,760
so we have been seen as best in country

235
00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,240
and some international 

236
00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:08,120
recognition as well. 

237
00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,880
So lots of practice 

238
00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:11,040
that's happening here, 

239
00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:12,240
which we're really pleased to see 

240
00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:13,400
because it may be that for 

241
00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,280
some of you, you've not travelled 

242
00:06:15,280 --> 00:06:15,920
and you may be in 

243
00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,920
the position that I was in. 

244
00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,120
So that's exactly why 

245
00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:20,640
I wanted to do this. 

246
00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:21,360
But I'm going to hand over 

247
00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:22,800
now to Darren to explain 

248
00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:23,760
in a more practical level 

249
00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,400
what we've been doing here. 

250
00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,120
I want to start with a question,

251
00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,240
if I can, just by a show of hands, 

252
00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:32,760
how many people have left the country?

253
00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:36,840
Quite a few. 

254
00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:37,800
OK. 

255
00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,280
So I came when I first joined 

256
00:06:40,280 --> 00:06:41,160
as part of Erasmus, 

257
00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:42,920
I went on a staff mobility 

258
00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,280
and we went with about 

259
00:06:44,280 --> 00:06:46,040
five of the members of staff. 

260
00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,120
And some of those members of staff

261
00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,120
who had been teaching here for a while 

262
00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:51,160
had never left the country. 

263
00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,280
Some of them never left the area. 

264
00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:54,920
And the change that I saw 

265
00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,000
in those members of staff 

266
00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,480
and then as we've gone on 

267
00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,040
to putting students into 

268
00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,360
those mobilities has been huge 

269
00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:03,960
and the opportunities 

270
00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,520
you can kind of reach through these

271
00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,480
Erasmus visits is absolutely huge.

272
00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,120
And I've just written a list

273
00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,720
of the areas that we have links with

274
00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,280
across Germany, Finland, France and Malta

275
00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,880
got building services, mechanical, 

276
00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,240
electrical, air conditioning, 

277
00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,360
engineering, art, 

278
00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,000
media, games design and photography. 

279
00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,200
So all of those areas, 

280
00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:28,480
you could potentially 

281
00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,360
have access to those opportunities

282
00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,080
in a variety of different countries. 

283
00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,600
The experience that that's given 

284
00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,640
the students the staff 

285
00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,920
is incredible, and hopefully

286
00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,560
I'll be able to pass onto and answer off

287
00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,120
who've been the benefactors 

288
00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:45,360
of some of those events.

289
00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,680
Did you want to comment on Erasmus? 

290
00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,640
OK, so my name is Angela Pearson, 

291
00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,000
and I teach for performing arts,

292
00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:57,640
but I was really 

293
00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:58,920
lucky to be able 

294
00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,360
to go out on one of the first 

295
00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:01,160
exchange programs 

296
00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,480
we did with France, primarily

297
00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,320
with members of staff 

298
00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,280
to see different practices 

299
00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:08,600
and how I could implement that 

300
00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,160
within my practice. 

301
00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:10,960
And one of the things 

302
00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:11,920
I learned immediately 

303
00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,640
was the fact that 

304
00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,440
we have specific lessons for an hour 

305
00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,440
and a half, two hours, sometimes

306
00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:18,920
and sometimes in performing arts, 

307
00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,840
We don't really have enough time to grasp 

308
00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,440
hold of a full performance in that time.

309
00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,080
So one of the things we brought back 

310
00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:26,240
and used within our practice 

311
00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:27,800
now is we have production days 

312
00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,400
where we do a show in a full day

313
00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,000
instead of just an hour and a half here 

314
00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:32,960
and an hour and a half there, 

315
00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,280
because it gave us more of 

316
00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,800
an industry related experience,

317
00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,080
but also mimicked what they did 

318
00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,080
in a different country 

319
00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,640
and just looking at the way they worked

320
00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:45,760
with their students 

321
00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,640
and how we could talk 

322
00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,160
and have a conference 

323
00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:50,280
between each other 

324
00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:51,560
to see how we can implement 

325
00:08:51,560 --> 00:08:52,600
some of the things that they do 

326
00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:53,960
and then some of the things that we do. 

327
00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:54,920
It's not just going there 

328
00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,040
and saying, Well, what do they do? 

329
00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,000
Do they do it better 

330
00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:57,920
no because we do 

331
00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,120
some things better as well, 

332
00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,320
and it's about sharing that experience.

333
00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:03,480
And then I was lucky enough 

334
00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:04,640
to take a group of students 

335
00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,240
art and design and photography 

336
00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:07,840
students to Germany 

337
00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,720
and to see the change of the students

338
00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,320
when they first leave here with us.

339
00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,080
And then three weeks later, 

340
00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,200
when I go and collect them again 

341
00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,600
because we take them to the airport,

342
00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,120
we are on the bus, we go to the airport, 

343
00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,360
we get on the plane, 

344
00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,920
we get off, we set them in a hotel,

345
00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:26,920
take them to the college 

346
00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,160
for the first couple of days 

347
00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:29,520
and then literally, that's it. 

348
00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,160
You are then on your own 

349
00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:32,520
with us in the background, 

350
00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:33,600
but you're just going 

351
00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:34,680
to college as normal, 

352
00:09:34,680 --> 00:09:36,280
but you're taking part in lessons 

353
00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:37,640
that are going to be 

354
00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:38,720
in a different language. 

355
00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,080
They are going to be 

356
00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:41,160
in a different language, 

357
00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,000
but the teachers 

358
00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,600
can all speak English very well, 

359
00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,440
and we'll keep you involved with 

360
00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:46,280
what's going on. 

361
00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:47,240
You'll have your own project 

362
00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:48,520
that you'll take from college 

363
00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:49,880
because you've still got your own work 

364
00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,080
to do from your own courses,

365
00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,280
but you'll get to do it in an environment 

366
00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:55,120
which may be different 

367
00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:56,680
to what you're used to. 

368
00:09:56,680 --> 00:09:58,000
And then when I came back 

369
00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,440
to bring the students back 

370
00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,120
after those three weeks, 

371
00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,960
I saw four different students.

372
00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,880
People who were more confident, 

373
00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,240
more energetic, wanted to get back to

374
00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:11,000
their colleagues 

375
00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,280
and their fellow students. 

376
00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,440
And the teachers go, guess what I did. 

377
00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,040
We did this and we did that. 

378
00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,280
And what was really nice. 

379
00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:18,760
Yes, they went to college every day 

380
00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,000
with these students. 

381
00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,720
But one of the things that I saw 

382
00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:22,800
was the relationships 

383
00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,000
they built with the students 

384
00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,440
and then took that out in the evenings

385
00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:27,720
they went bowling. 

386
00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,800
They went out for meals with each other.

387
00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,120
And by the end of it, 

388
00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:32,680
by the end of the three or four weeks, 

389
00:10:32,680 --> 00:10:33,920
they had this real bond 

390
00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,800
that some of them still have now. 

391
00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,360
So that leads me very nicely onto Sophie,

392
00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:39,800
because Sophie went out 

393
00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,880
on one of our trips just before corona,

394
00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:44,720
and I'm going to hand over to her 

395
00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,160
and she can tell you about 

396
00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:47,360
her experience.

397
00:10:48,560 --> 00:10:50,440
So, yeah, my name is Sophie. 

398
00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,520
I studied performing arts here

399
00:10:52,560 --> 00:10:53,880
a few years ago. 

400
00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,120
I'm at the uni now. 

401
00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,360
But I went out to Malta for three weeks

402
00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:04,280
and I first got I realized about Erasmus

403
00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,680
because I got told about it and it was

404
00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:08,840
something an experience 

405
00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,560
I'd never thought I'd be able to do. 

406
00:11:10,560 --> 00:11:11,520
I was like, Oh yeah, what? 

407
00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,600
three weeks in a different country,

408
00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,960
I can never afford that. 

409
00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,440
I'd never like Emma. 

410
00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,080
I was 19 when I went when I was 19.

411
00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:22,520
I'd never been on a plane. 

412
00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:23,400
Never been abroad. 

413
00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,000
Oh, sorry, I've been to Paris, but. 

414
00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,560
With with school again 

415
00:11:27,560 --> 00:11:28,480
when I was in high school, 

416
00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,560
but I'd never been on a plane 

417
00:11:30,560 --> 00:11:31,600
and I was like, Oh, 

418
00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,120
I won't be able to afford it. 

419
00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,200
Malta for three weeks? Absolutely not.

420
00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,440
But it's all funded 

421
00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,520
like that to me was like next level.

422
00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,040
I was like, what? 

423
00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:43,840
All funded for three weeks. 

424
00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,600
You don't pay anything. 

425
00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:46,960
And it's not just about that 

426
00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:47,760
it's everything. 

427
00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,440
Like, I went there and I did

428
00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,400
get stopped in the airport, 

429
00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,040
my bag got searched and I was like, what. 

430
00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:56,920
I'd never experienced that. 

431
00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:57,840
And I was stood there and was like, 

432
00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:58,360
why me? 

433
00:11:58,360 --> 00:11:59,520
I was like, Oh my God, this is 

434
00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,280
I'd never been and I was so nervous.

435
00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:03,200
But coming back, 

436
00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,480
I was like, I've got this. It's fine. 

437
00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:06,920
And it's just little 

438
00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,680
things like that that you don't 

439
00:12:08,680 --> 00:12:09,960
if you've been abroad.

440
00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,280
You 

441
00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:13,440
when you're younger, 

442
00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:14,760
you don't think about stuff like that 

443
00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:15,960
because you've done it, 

444
00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:17,960
but when you're 19 

445
00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,880
and everyone else that you're with 

446
00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,520
has been abroad, you're like, 

447
00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,200
Oh my God, I'm really nervous. 

448
00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:24,640
Like, I was going, Oh my God, 

449
00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:25,320
I was sat behind 

450
00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,400
Darren on the plane and I was like, 

451
00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:28,960
Oh my God, I've never been on a plane. 

452
00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:29,560
Oh my God. 

453
00:12:29,560 --> 00:12:32,520
It was genuinely so exciting.

454
00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:33,560
The entire journey. 

455
00:12:33,560 --> 00:12:34,600
But, you know, 

456
00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,840
but once you're there, the culture

457
00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,400
like the difference 

458
00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,880
in culture that is just. 

459
00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,280
Beautiful, it really is beautiful. 

460
00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,280
So I obviously went to Malta,

461
00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,160
but I know that there are different 

462
00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,320
places like Finland and Germany, 

463
00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:51,960
so I can't comment on them. 

464
00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,120
But when I went to Malta, 

465
00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,400
they love British people 

466
00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:57,880
like genuinely it's 

467
00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,480
like you're one of them. 

468
00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,080
Like a lot of places 

469
00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:02,440
with British people, 

470
00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,440
they look down at you. 

471
00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,400
But Malta Maltese people 

472
00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,360
love British people so much. 

473
00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,520
So when we went into their college, 

474
00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:11,560
there was like, Oh my god, 

475
00:13:11,560 --> 00:13:12,440
we love your voice. 

476
00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,600
Like your accents are great, like they,

477
00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,400
you felt like 

478
00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,400
they wanted you to be there. 

479
00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:19,560
And sometimes when you're there 

480
00:13:19,560 --> 00:13:20,280
for three weeks. 

481
00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,640
So we was all on on the coach

482
00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:24,560
trip like going, 

483
00:13:24,560 --> 00:13:26,120
Oh my God, they're not going to want us. 

484
00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:26,560
Like, we're going to 

485
00:13:26,560 --> 00:13:27,800
just feel really like

486
00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:30,560
not part of their group, but 

487
00:13:30,560 --> 00:13:32,200
instantly, instantly. 

488
00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,040
I still talk to them now, 

489
00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:34,840
like I'm still friends 

490
00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:35,880
with them all on Facebook 

491
00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,400
and I see what they're doing. 

492
00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,120
And 

493
00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,200
with performing arts, 

494
00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,000
they have all been 

495
00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,000
in short movies and trailers

496
00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,640
and advertisements. 

497
00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,920
Here it is a bit harder to get into that,

498
00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,080
but over there, over 

499
00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,640
in Malta, it's so easy.

500
00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:55,760
And if we'd have been there, 

501
00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:56,600
if we'd have gone 

502
00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,920
the couple of weeks after, 

503
00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:00,800
we could have been in that. 

504
00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,640
So it's you get so many opportunities.

505
00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:05,280
Like, honestly, like, 

506
00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:06,960
it's amazing and I loved it 

507
00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,200
and I want to go again. 

508
00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:09,720
Can I just pick up on the language 

509
00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:10,480
you talked about? 

510
00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,000
Because the language

511
00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:13,880
is a really interesting one. 

512
00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,320
So when we go to Malta, 

513
00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,320
if you catch a student 

514
00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:19,720
or member of staff off guard, 

515
00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,400
they'll talk in Maltese, 

516
00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:21,960
which is a really, 

517
00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,440
really difficult language to master.

518
00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,960
And I've yet I've been there 13 times 

519
00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,080
yet to master the language,

520
00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,640
but they should teach in English.

521
00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:33,520
So when we walk in the room 

522
00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:34,400
or when they've got guests 

523
00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:35,000
that walk in the room 

524
00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,400
or the management or anything else, 

525
00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:37,480
they'll instantly change 

526
00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:38,760
to talk in English and English 

527
00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,440
is the aspirational language, 

528
00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:41,920
which is strange, isn't it? 

529
00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:43,120
So we do get a lot of praise 

530
00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:43,800
about our accent 

531
00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,040
and we're encouraged to, 

532
00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:45,640
you know, I've given 

533
00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,640
English classes over there 

534
00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,600
because it's seen as in business, 

535
00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,640
the language to talk, and it's seen

536
00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,440
as the sort of lesser 

537
00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,640
and the more traditional

538
00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:58,680
the smaller SMEs 

539
00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,760
that were talking Maltese. 

540
00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,840
So it's really interesting to know

541
00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:03,960
that in terms of the island 

542
00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:04,680
when you're on the island, 

543
00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,240
because when we go to France, 

544
00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:06,680
if any of you were 

545
00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:07,320
interested in traveling 

546
00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:08,920
to France with us it's 

547
00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,080
absolutely not acceptable

548
00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:12,680
to speak in English. 

549
00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,040
If you speak in English, that's 

550
00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,280
you kind of giving up. 

551
00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:16,440
So it's really important 

552
00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:17,560
that we've got different language tools, 

553
00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,000
but it's really important that you master 

554
00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,040
at least some of the basics in French

555
00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:21,840
and you make an effort 

556
00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:22,880
to speak in French. 

557
00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,120
The same as I suppose you could talk. 

558
00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:26,120
You know, food terms, 

559
00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,360
very similar Malta in France,

560
00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,080
if you say no and they're offering you 

561
00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:31,160
some hospitality. 

562
00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,040
It's not culturally part of what we do.

563
00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,040
Germany, you know, it's

564
00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:37,000
kind of middle ground, 

565
00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,160
but I absolutely found that 

566
00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,040
in terms of language with Malta did you? 

567
00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:40,480
Yeah. 

568
00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,600
So, actually, some of one of the

569
00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,680
we was in near the end of it,

570
00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,920
the tutor actually asked us

571
00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,000
to stand up and talk like through

572
00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,240
because they the students, particularly

573
00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,000
they switch between 

574
00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:57,760
Maltese and English, literally 

575
00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,760
within the same sentence. 

576
00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,080
They'd be speaking to you 

577
00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:02,920
and speaking to one of their friends 

578
00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,720
and not not in a nasty way, 

579
00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,840
but they'd then switch into Maltese

580
00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:07,320
and then be like, 

581
00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:08,360
Oh my God, I'm so sorry. 

582
00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,400
And then they'd repeat what they said. 

583
00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,880
And the tutor actually asked us

584
00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,440
as a group to like, 

585
00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:16,720
sit down and read like 

586
00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:17,840
through one of their scripts 

587
00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,640
so they could pick up 

588
00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,960
how English people spoke.

589
00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,000
Spoke the dialect. So

590
00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:27,920
how can I ask this group here, 

591
00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:28,640
how would you feel 

592
00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,440
if we had some French students 

593
00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:31,720
that joined you in the group? 

594
00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:32,480
Do you think you should speak 

595
00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,360
French the more English? 

596
00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:35,080
On the front row. 

597
00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:36,080
What would you do? 

598
00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,040
You speak English 

599
00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,680
and do you think that's OK? 

600
00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,080
Because because why they're coming here, 

601
00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:42,800
would you do the same 

602
00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,160
if you went to France? 

603
00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,840
Would you try and speak French? 

604
00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,200
Not sure. 

605
00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:53,800
But there is something to be said 

606
00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,640
sorry about hearing French, 

607
00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,680
in a really thick Grimsby accent.

608
00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,400
Because when Ash went out 

609
00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:00,640
and one of the one 

610
00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:01,920
of the programme leaders 

611
00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:02,880
picked up quite a lot of French, 

612
00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:04,560
and he did really well, far 

613
00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:05,640
more than I learned. 

614
00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:06,680
But hearing it in a really 

615
00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:07,960
thick Grimsby accent is.

616
00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:10,760
Little bit surreal, I'm going 

617
00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,520
to be honest, it is a bit bizarre. 

618
00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,680
But knowing the expectation

619
00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:15,240
is really important 

620
00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:16,360
before you go somewhere. 

621
00:17:16,360 --> 00:17:17,760
The same I touched on with food. 

622
00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,720
But you know, when I went to Finland 

623
00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,640
knowing that you've got that break 

624
00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:22,680
in the middle of the day 

625
00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:23,960
and that culture is really important 

626
00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,680
is something in France. 

627
00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:27,280
How would you feel 

628
00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:28,320
about having a two hour lunch 

629
00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,720
break every single day? 

630
00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,520
And when where we go in France, 

631
00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:35,800
the school is fairly remote. 

632
00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,560
There's nowhere else to go. 

633
00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:38,680
So if you're going to get rained 

634
00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:39,400
on, you're going to get rained on. 

635
00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:40,800
But there is absolutely 

636
00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,800
a two hour break every day. 

637
00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,480
Staff and students all in together. 

638
00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,120
But that is the rule. So

639
00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,240
there's lots of different choice here. 

640
00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:50,360
There's no choice there, 

641
00:17:50,360 --> 00:17:51,560
there's one place that you go, 

642
00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:52,320
that's what you do 

643
00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:53,640
and you have two hours. 

644
00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:54,840
And that's the same right across 

645
00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,360
France, from school, college 

646
00:17:56,360 --> 00:17:58,120
university two hour break. 

647
00:17:58,120 --> 00:17:59,840
And that's part of their welfare policy. 

648
00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:01,080
They believe that you need time 

649
00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,080
to turn off your brain 

650
00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:03,400
to kind of calm down from whatever 

651
00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:04,440
you've learned in the morning 

652
00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:05,400
and then to gear back up 

653
00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:06,000
for the afternoon. 

654
00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,320
So it's a much longer study day as well. 

655
00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:08,960
So you'll be studying 

656
00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,680
there till 6:00, 7:00. 

657
00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,800
You can also, in France,

658
00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,080
you can work with alcohol. 

659
00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,120
And so if you're in hospitality,

660
00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,000
you're encouraged to taste 

661
00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,000
the alcohol quite regularly 

662
00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,360
so you can be 14 15. 

663
00:18:22,360 --> 00:18:23,000
As long as it's to do 

664
00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,120
with business purposes, 

665
00:18:24,120 --> 00:18:25,000
then you're encouraged to do it 

666
00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,800
a bit like in Maltese. 

667
00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:27,800
As long as it's business, 

668
00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:28,720
then you speak English, 

669
00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:29,640
so there's a real definition 

670
00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,760
between business and social.

671
00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:33,720
So that was an interesting difference.

672
00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,160
Any other differences we want to pick up. 

673
00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:37,200
I was wondering if there was 

674
00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,120
any any questions 

675
00:18:38,120 --> 00:18:39,080
about European travel 

676
00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:40,440
from anyone or anything 

677
00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:41,640
that wanted to pick up 

678
00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:42,520
on anything we've said. 

679
00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:43,920
Anyone interested in 

680
00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,160
asking about Erasmus 

681
00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:46,720
or studying at different 

682
00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:47,560
colleges, obviously, 

683
00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:48,320
we've got a student here 

684
00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,280
that studied at a different college for 

685
00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:51,480
for three weeks. 

686
00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,320
Is there anyone that had anything to add? 

687
00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:55,840
Yeah, I'm going to come across 

688
00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,080
so I can stick a mic under your face 

689
00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:57,800
if that's ok? 

690
00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,040
What different countries

691
00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,080
do you offer for obviously

692
00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,640
electrical or mechanical engineering? 

693
00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,040
Well, we've got contacts 

694
00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,280
across a range of the ones

695
00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,760
the France, Finland, Malta and Germany.

696
00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,800
The partnerships that we develop are

697
00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,760
constantly evolving, so 

698
00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:24,680
I can't remember which ones 

699
00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:25,840
are specifically engineering, 

700
00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,760
to be honest, but Emma? 

701
00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,600
Yeah so in Malta. 

702
00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,200
It's a real engineering island, 

703
00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,280
so there's opportunity in Malta. 

704
00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:34,360
Just about half of the industry 

705
00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:36,280
is linked in some way to engineering, 

706
00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:37,280
obviously marine engineering. 

707
00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:38,880
So there's some real opportunities there, 

708
00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,400
but also in Germany as well. 

709
00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:41,360
So at Metmin college in 

710
00:19:41,360 --> 00:19:42,280
the college based in Bonn.

711
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:51,520
Who was that? 

712
00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:52,680
Was that a question 

713
00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:53,000
or just saying you're interested 

714
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,000
in going abroad? 

715
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,640
What question have you got? 

716
00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,920
No question, no question. 

717
00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,280
I think that's a really good thing 

718
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:20,600
to pick up on the positivity 

719
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:21,480
around the groups, 

720
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,120
seeing the dynamic changing 

721
00:20:23,120 --> 00:20:25,120
with both the staff groups 

722
00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:26,560
and the student groups. 

723
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,680
I think I went with staff members

724
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,240
that I had never really worked before 

725
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,240
and actually now work with quite a lot. 

726
00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:33,440
And I think the student groups 

727
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:34,600
I've taken out across 

728
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:35,640
the different sectors 

729
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,320
that we worked in in 

730
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,040
performing arts, media, games design 

731
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:40,720
the friendship groups like you said 

732
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,520
the people in the other countries 

733
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:43,280
you make friends 

734
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,200
and also the friendship groups 

735
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,880
that you bring back to college 

736
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,800
is actually really, really useful. 

737
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,200
Can I go to a member of staff?

738
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,160
So Rachel I'm going to ask you. 

739
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:54,960
When you come to work normally, 

740
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,680
you see colleagues day to day. 

741
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:57,480
How do you normally say 

742
00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:58,200
hello or greet them?

743
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:00,240
Hello. 

744
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,640
So you speak to them. 

745
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,560
Yeah, just normally. 

746
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:05,960
Any physical contact in any way, 

747
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,800
just as a normal kind of British 

748
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,480
Grimsby person? 

749
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,080
No, not really. 

750
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,320
OK. 

751
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:22,720
I'm just crazy anyway aren't I.

752
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:23,440
Obviously, there was a 

753
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:24,400
lot of meet and greet 

754
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:25,560
with us at the box office, 

755
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:26,360
so we had quite a lot 

756
00:21:26,360 --> 00:21:28,720
of contact with them. 

757
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:30,640
But they were lovely, I missed them 

758
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:31,360
when they went, 

759
00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:33,720
and I had the opportunity to go. 

760
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:34,280
But unfortunately 

761
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,000
I was pregnant at the time, 

762
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,320
so I had to give up my place,

763
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,040
but I'm still waiting to go. 

764
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,640
So I'm going to be on one of them.

765
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,240
So can I come to you, so normally

766
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:46,400
where we're at work. 

767
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:47,120
I've got colleagues here. 

768
00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:49,360
So in the morning I say, morning, 

769
00:21:49,360 --> 00:21:50,360
how are you doing? 

770
00:21:50,360 --> 00:21:51,200
What happens in France? 

771
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,200
They'll kiss you. 100% every time.

772
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,160
Well, I would just say hello don't 

773
00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,160
you in the morning 

774
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,000
Charlie, we just go, hi. 

775
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,400
But in France, they'll 

776
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,400
kiss you on both cheeks. 

777
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:04,560
Went to bed early 

778
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:05,960
the night before, Charlie. 

779
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,440
So if you are a member of staff in France

780
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,200
and you walked into a 

781
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,920
staff room with 20 people, 

782
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,080
you would make the effort to go in kiss

783
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,160
and we saw this every time.

784
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,800
All 20 members of staff double kiss,

785
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,040
100% every time. 

786
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,240
And it may be that you go in

787
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:26,240
and you have a chat with them, 

788
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:27,480
you come out and you're away for an hour 

789
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:28,040
because you're delivering 

790
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,160
or whatever and you go back 

791
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,440
and then you do it again. 

792
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,880
And it was consistent every time. 

793
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,520
I think that's you've 

794
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:38,800
got a really interesting point there, 

795
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,400
because our greetings have changed 

796
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:41,680
recently, haven't they 

797
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,800
I have met a few new people recently

798
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,240
as we've started to open up. 

799
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,120
And one of the first things I say is 

800
00:22:48,120 --> 00:22:49,040
I won't shake your hand, 

801
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,680
and sometimes they offer an elbow. 

802
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:51,840
Sometimes they just 

803
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,880
just just in the kind of like that.

804
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,480
But our greetings very much 

805
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:56,920
have changed because 

806
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:57,760
because of COVID, 

807
00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,480
and I would be very interested 

808
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:00,800
to know how it's changed 

809
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:01,560
across there, how 

810
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,440
they've adapted to those greetings 

811
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,680
because they were culturally expected.

812
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:08,960
That's something to kind 

813
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,680
of maybe look in to. 

814
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,680
Yeah, it'll be really interesting to see, 

815
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,720
but as you go in, it is again

816
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:15,760
a bit like, you know, if you 

817
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:16,680
if you're accepting food, 

818
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,040
it is an absolute expectation 

819
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,080
that you embrace the culture 

820
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,840
that you've chosen to enter. 

821
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,080
And it's rude not to do that. 

822
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,120
So that's the practice that we adopted

823
00:23:24,120 --> 00:23:24,960
Darren didn't adopt it 

824
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:25,600
because Darren's allergic 

825
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,000
to physical contact, 

826
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,120
and it was quite amusing to see 

827
00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:28,960
social distancing 

828
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,400
was a gift it's brilliant, 

829
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,640
but it was really interesting. 

830
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,000
So you said about going to Erasmus

831
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,280
then you went on to university. 

832
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,080
Did you build confidence 

833
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:39,720
to go into Erasmus 

834
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,000
that helped to go to university? 

835
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,080
Would you have gone to university 

836
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,080
had you not gone to Erasmus?

837
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:45,920
I think I always 

838
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,000
wanted to go to university, 

839
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,080
but it gave me. 

840
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,080
I was 

841
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,360
I went to Manchester 

842
00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:53,080
for a few months last year 

843
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,080
and it gave me that push to do it

844
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:56,480
because I was umming 

845
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:57,400
and arring quite a lot. 

846
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,200
Do I stay here and stay on? 

847
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,280
Obviously, I'm back now, but I was like, 

848
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,280
Oh, do I go elsewhere?

849
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:04,920
And it actually did give me that 

850
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,480
because I I've lived my, 

851
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,000
my mom and my dad for my entire life.

852
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,640
So I was like three weeks away from what

853
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:12,480
my parents like. 

854
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:13,840
Oh my God, I've never washed 

855
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,560
clothes in my life, 

856
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,200
but like, it gave me that. 

857
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,200
I had to do it because my my mum was back

858
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,240
in England, but so it gave me that like.

859
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:30,040
Trial like a free trial, so.

860
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,160
Yeah, I'd actually put in my notes to ask

861
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,240
that as a follow up question, 

862
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,600
and I completely forgot 

863
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:40,760
because it's completely 

864
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:41,280
different, isn't it? 

865
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:41,880
Without a support 

866
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,160
network, we essentially. 

867
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,160
I want to sound sound as positive 

868
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:46,800
as I can about this, 

869
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,400
but abandon you in another country 

870
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,560
and you have to fend for yourselves .

871
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:52,760
We're not going to be there to kind of 

872
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,080
we'll be there 

873
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,920
to kind of pick you up if needed, 

874
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,120
and we're there as a support network. 

875
00:24:58,120 --> 00:25:00,840
But it's going to be your first.

876
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,000
It could be potentially 

877
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,560
your first experience 

878
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,040
of living completely alone. 

879
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,040
So it sounds really dark and depressing.

880
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,840
That's not how I meant. 

881
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:26,400
Exactly. 

882
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,120
So if you if you think now 

883
00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:29,440
about the people on your left 

884
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,800
and on your right, they might be mates. 

885
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,120
They're also your competitors 

886
00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:33,920
for your next job.

887
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:35,920
You doing the same course? 

888
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:36,880
So what else is there 

889
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,120
that can set you aside? 

890
00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:39,760
So when you write your CV 

891
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:40,920
and your mate on the left writing theirs. 

892
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,360
What have you got that's different? 

893
00:25:43,360 --> 00:25:45,040
If you can say that you've been overseas, 

894
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:45,880
you've worked with this employee 

895
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:46,960
you've done this and that. 

896
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,240
It's massive it's absolutely massive.

897
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,400
So not only do you get the experience, 

898
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:52,160
it also can give you 

899
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,400
a leg up in terms of, 

900
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:54,160
you know, all the things 

901
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:54,960
that you can access 

902
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,960
with the confidence that you've got. 

903
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,280
Right. Let me come to this then. 

904
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,440
So what do you think? 

905
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,360
I'm going to ask you on the front row 

906
00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:05,560
what is a stereotypical

907
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,440
characteristic of being British, 

908
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,440
do you think? 

909
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,200
Drinking tea, drinking tea.

910
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:13,640
All right, what else?

911
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,280
Fish and chips, fish and chips.

912
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:19,880
All right, so we got drinking 

913
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:25,760
tea, fish and chips.

914
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:32,160
Being polite.

915
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,320
Absolutely.

916
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,400
Standing in the queue, yeah, definitely.

917
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:38,200
Yeah, how many times 

918
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:38,960
if we stood in a queue 

919
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,320
they don't do that in France or Germany.

920
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,080
Yes, you're still stood in the queue. 

921
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,520
Yeah, you can be the person 

922
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:46,080
that stood there 

923
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,200
and everyone else is gone in front of you 

924
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,600
and elbow past you. 

925
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,360
So who has been abroad on their own?

926
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:55,800
Without your parents, 

927
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:56,920
so three out of all of you, 

928
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,280
so it's an opportunity, 

929
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,240
definitely for you guys 

930
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,040
to keep your ear to the ground 

931
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,160
because we're hoping to

932
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,360
send groups of students out 

933
00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:08,120
aren't we over the next few years. 

934
00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:08,880
There'll be opportunities 

935
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:09,640
again, for sure. 

936
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,920
We we're really dedicated to it

937
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,400
for the reasons that we've talked about. 

938
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:14,560
Obviously, we're in a situation 

939
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:15,520
at the moment with COVID, 

940
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:16,600
so we need to think practically 

941
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:17,800
about what we can do. 

942
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,560
And it's in terms of accessing funding, 

943
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:20,120
but it's something 

944
00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:21,080
that we are committed to 

945
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,520
when it's possible to do it. Yeah. 

946
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:23,720
And what normally happens 

947
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,000
with the application process.

948
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,040
You'll put forward your application 

949
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,040
and you'll have to do 

950
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,280
a PowerPoint presentation 

951
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,360
or I think you have to write something,

952
00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:32,960
didn't you Sophie? 

953
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,240
Yeah. So you have to like, apply. 

954
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,880
And I did a presentation 

955
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,160
and one of the slides was

956
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,400
I did like fun facts about Malta.

957
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,440
And there was so much like 

958
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,280
so many weird facts 

959
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,280
about Malta that you'd never think like.

960
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,720
I think I found that 

961
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:52,960
it used to be illegal 

962
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,040
to run in the street 

963
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,160
and like, there was so many, 

964
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,320
like when you research 

965
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:58,760
about where you're going as well, 

966
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,800
you find out so much like please, 

967
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,680
when if you do go research 

968
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:03,240
about where you're going 

969
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,240
you get told, like all of the basics

970
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,720
that you need to know. 

971
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,440
But there's so much 

972
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:10,520
more interesting facts 

973
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,720
that you would would never think to know

974
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,520
and make sure you've all got a passport 

975
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,360
that's got at least six months on it. 

976
00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:18,360
Because obviously with EU Brexit,

977
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,440
we have to make sure that you all have 

978
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,360
the right documentation 

979
00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:23,720
to get in and out of the country. 

980
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,040
Yeah, don't do what I did

981
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:26,640
and leave it until the last minute.

982
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,400
It will be a proviso 

983
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,400
of the application 

984
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,960
that you have to have a passport. 

985
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,360
And it's got at least six months 

986
00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:35,120
before you travel on it. 

987
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,160
So the first thing that you'll see, 

988
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,680
sorry we've got a couple of questions on 

989
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,120
on the back of that. 

990
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,720
As soon as we know when the funding is,

991
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,760
when we know we can go again, 

992
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,240
we will let every department know.

993
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,640
So every department that we can 

994
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,680
facilitate in one of these countries 

995
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,480
will be able to then 

996
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,360
pass that information 

997
00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:59,080
on to their students. 

998
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,200
So I promise as soon as we know,

999
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:02,680
you'll know. 

1000
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,240
Absolutely widening 

1001
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:24,960
your horizons 

1002
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,160
and taking in different cultures 

1003
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:27,560
and different beliefs. 

1004
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,440
Absolutely. It's massively important. 

1005
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,120
Completely. I really agree. 

1006
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,920
And on that, it's important 

1007
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:34,520
that, you know, the reason 

1008
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:35,120
I was asking about 

1009
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:35,720
what is it to be 

1010
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,480
British is to try and be really open

1011
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,960
to understanding stereotypes,

1012
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,880
but also seeing beyond them. 

1013
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,880
So, you know, if you think about me, 

1014
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,720
I'm look like I'm white British. 

1015
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,840
Well, actually, I'm 50% Afro-Caribbean,

1016
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,600
and there's a quarter of me is Russian,

1017
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,720
so I'm probably like a quarter 

1018
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,800
left as as white British. 

1019
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,400
So yes, I might queue 

1020
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,520
because I'm quite polite person, 

1021
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,160
and I do like some of the food 

1022
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,160
that you talked about. 

1023
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,080
But also, I can speak a little bit 

1024
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,240
different languages and I, you know,

1025
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,760
I greet someone in the way they do it 

1026
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:10,880
when we go to France 

1027
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,000
and all sorts of things. 

1028
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,480
And the more you can 

1029
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:14,480
sort of gather together 

1030
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,720
in terms of your cultural 

1031
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,520
portfolio, the stronger 

1032
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:18,400
you'll be when you go 

1033
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,640
to different environments. 

1034
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,000
Because it may well be that

1035
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,120
you found a pocket of culture in England

1036
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:26,640
that actually replicates 

1037
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,560
a pocket of culture in a different place 

1038
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:29,560
in a different country because,

1039
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:32,480
culture develops where 

1040
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:33,880
people come together. 

1041
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,840
So it's important to know, 

1042
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,000
as we say, the characteristics. 

1043
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,880
You know, we all wear bowler hats 

1044
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,520
and we all know the Queen. 

1045
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:41,440
And when we went to Malta, 

1046
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,240
that's what they expect. 

1047
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,160
I mean, how many times 

1048
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,160
have you met the Queen? 

1049
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,280
Well, she's not my gran, 

1050
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:45,960
but they just think, Oh, 

1051
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:46,800
you're a small island. 

1052
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:47,720
We absolutely have. 

1053
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:48,560
We've met, you know, 

1054
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:49,600
and we all have our big black 

1055
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:50,320
umbrellas and stuff. 

1056
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:51,040
So it's really important 

1057
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,560
to understand what people expect of us, 

1058
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,920
but also to challenge that a little bit.

1059
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,000
And also, 

1060
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:56,760
you know, we've talked 

1061
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:57,680
about some of the differences 

1062
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,320
when you go to different countries, 

1063
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:00,640
but challenge that too 

1064
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:01,640
in a really polite way 

1065
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:02,760
and have those conversations. 

1066
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,040
So for example, 

1067
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,480
if any of you travel with us to France, 

1068
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,760
you can't talk about religion, 

1069
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,160
you cannot talk about religion. 

1070
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,200
So it's really important to understand 

1071
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,840
and do your research as Soph says 

1072
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:14,680
before you go into 

1073
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:15,440
different environments. 

1074
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,120
Because if you start to have a big debate 

1075
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,920
about religion in a class that is not OK.

1076
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,560
But outside of class, 

1077
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:23,360
to start having those 

1078
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,600
conversations, actually, 

1079
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:25,880
we were told it's really refreshing 

1080
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,160
and we had some really interesting 

1081
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,040
conversations in Germany. 

1082
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,080
You know, the idea 

1083
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,160
do we talk about the war?

1084
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,000
You know, kind of un said thing. 

1085
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,960
Of course, we talk about the war 

1086
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,520
because we all think that terrible things 

1087
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:38,440
happened in the war, 

1088
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:39,920
and that's no different. 

1089
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,840
Are you doing the side shuffle? 

1090
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,560
Cool. And 

1091
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,440
so that's no different. 

1092
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,200
Whoever we are, 

1093
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,000
because we've all got 

1094
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,080
the same hearts and minds. 

1095
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,800
So think about stereo type 

1096
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,200
but think beyond stereotype. 

1097
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,840
And it's a really important message 

1098
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,240
that our colleague made there about that 

1099
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,240
and about opening her eyes and so,

1100
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,840
I am aware that we're out of time. 

1101
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,160
Thank you very much for your time today. 

1102
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,360
We are very proud 

1103
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,080
that we pioneer opportunities 

1104
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,920
for you to travel fully funded 

1105
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,520
and when we're in a position to do that 

1106
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:09,200
with all of the different 

1107
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,520
external factors, we will let you know. 

1108
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,280
But thank you for your time today. 

1109
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,120
If you've got any questions, 

1110
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,160
we'll still be here. Thanks, guys.

1111
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:22,960
We've been taught 

1112
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,040
about different cultural places

1113
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,840
where we could go to study 

1114
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,880
there as a experience.

1115
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,000
Is it something you are interested in

1116
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:34,440
and did you know 

1117
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:34,480
anything about it before today? 

1118
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,960
I didn't know anything about it, 

1119
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,320
but I would really be interested in it.

1120
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,440
And what have you learned 

1121
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:41,400
about other cultures 

1122
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,240
today is there anything in particular

1123
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:45,760
you have picked up on? Well, 

1124
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,000
because I've I've researched 

1125
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:47,920
other cultures before 

1126
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,480
because I've always been interested 

1127
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,040
in learning French, and stuff 

1128
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:51,960
I've known things 

1129
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,520
like they greet each other 

1130
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,400
with a kiss on the cheek. 

1131
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:56,680
So there is the odd thing 

1132
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,520
what I've learned. Malta, 

1133
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,400
you know what I mean,

1134
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,920
but I didn't know about them.

1135
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,480
There is. There is a lot I've learned.

1136
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,200
So for someone who has never come

1137
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:11,360
to a debates day 

1138
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:11,520
would you recommend someone 

1139
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:11,960
to come to the next one? 

1140
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,320
Definitely if they eant to progress

1141
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,400
into their career

1142
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,360
because if you're offering things 

1143
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:21,480
over a different country, 

1144
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:22,240
it could be different to 

1145
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,880
what we're learning here.

1146
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:27,600
So we've been having a 

1147
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,840
debate about the travel

1148
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,640
and culture around it. 

1149
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,280
And talking about British values 

1150
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,080
and how it's seen in other countries.

1151
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:37,440
Perfect. 

1152
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,760
And also, you were part of the panel,

1153
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,160
but what did you learn when you travelled 

1154
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:42,280
and would you recommend travel 

1155
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:43,200
to other students? 

1156
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,480
I would 1,000% recommend travel

1157
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,920
to other students like I loved it.

1158
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,240
I I learned so much about myself,

1159
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,760
but also about the other cultures. 

1160
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,080
Like when I went to Malta,

1161
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,600
we we learned that

1162
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,200
over there it's such a small thing. 

1163
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,320
But in the college 

1164
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,360
they had cats just roaming around

1165
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:07,360
and they used to feed them 

1166
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,440
and the wildlife

1167
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,120
and the animals, were so well kept.

1168
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:13,440
And they'd be like, 

1169
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,280
we'd be walkin in in the country

1170
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,160
and they'd have bird boxes and

1171
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,200
cat food and cat trays 

1172
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,240
so that the wild cats

1173
00:34:24,240 --> 00:34:25,840
could like, eat and drink. 

1174
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,280
And what did you learn about yourself 

1175
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,840
when you travelled

1176
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:30,640
and what can other people expect 

1177
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:30,680
who have not been abroad, 

1178
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,320
what do you come back with,

1179
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:33,600
were you a different 

1180
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:34,120
person, more confident 

1181
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,680
and organized things like that. 

1182
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,320
I didn't think I'd be able to do it.

1183
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:39,120
I didn't think I'd be able 

1184
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,240
to go abroad on my own 

1185
00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:41,160
without my parents. 

1186
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:42,360
Like I never been about anywhere 

1187
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,720
but on my own. 

1188
00:34:43,720 --> 00:34:46,560
Completely pretty much. And you, you

1189
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:48,600
learn so much more about 

1190
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,080
yourself when you're there 

1191
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,360
so I didn't think I'd be able to do 

1192
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,480
it, and I came back and I'd done it

1193
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,240
and I was like, Oh my God, 

1194
00:34:55,240 --> 00:34:56,280
I want to do it again 

1195
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,920
and again and again. 

1196
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,680
And it just gives you that newfound

1197
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:01,880
confidence of actually, 

1198
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,440
you don't want to 

1199
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,000
sometimes meet new people 

1200
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,080
but actually meeting new people, opens

1201
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:08,560
so many more doors.
